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    Can't help but feel a bit disappointed by the first 2 episodes of season seven. And I mean, there's only 7 episodes this season, so that's more than 25% of it right there.

    Everything seems... robotic, prescribed, obligatory. Person A meets Person B, and they have Conversation C. There are no surprises during the conversation, and everything seems to be incessantly spelled out. No subtlety or implication, nothing even happens off-screen. The acting is still fine, but the writing is very "by the numbers."

    For example... Varys had a very good speech in episode 2 when Daenerys confronted him about his loyalty. It was well acted. But why did that scene even happen? Varys met Dany at the same time as Tyrion, if memory serves, in the end of season five. Then they spent all of season six chumming around, during which Varys traveled around the world making deals (on Dany's behalf) with Greyjoys, Martells, and Tyrells, then he headed back to Meereen and hopped on a ship with Dany and turned around to go back to Westeros again (???) and land at Dragonstone... and then one of the writers went "oh shit it's season seven and we never had Dany properly confront Varys, well, we better do that now I guess."

    There are other examples. Dany's whole business meeting at Dragonstone was eyeroll-worthy. Cersei and Euron's meeting had some nice moments, but no surprises. Every one of Jon's scenes has limped along. Jaime and Randyll Tarly had a predictable conversation this week. Arya's checking things off a list (kill Walder, meet Hot Pie, learn about Jon, meet Nymeria) but none of it feels interesting. Even the Hound was kind of boring last week.

    Either the show's getting tired, or I'm getting tired of it. Or they ran out of George material and now they've got nothing.

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    I agree with your assessment of the first 2 episodes, but episode 4 felt like them giving me everything I wanted from this show, and I'm OK with that. It's probably not the direction George would have gone (or will be going) but I'm loving it.

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    SPOILER: Major revelation from last night's episode!

    I actually noticed this immediately, because I am a genius. Oooh, so now we know Prince Rhaegar was married to Lyanna Stark! My wife understood the implications. So he isn't a bastard? Nope. In fact, Jon Snow now has the most legitimate claim to the Iron Throne, as the firstborn son of the firstborn son of Aerys Targaryen. Neat!

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    Oh man, it's a whole D&D party!
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    Last night's episode had some good, fun spectacle to it. But...

    Quote Originally Posted by Macheath View Post
    Everything seems... robotic, prescribed, obligatory. Person A meets Person B, and they have Conversation C. There are no surprises during the conversation, and everything seems to be incessantly spelled out. No subtlety or implication, nothing even happens off-screen. The acting is still fine, but the writing is very "by the numbers."
    For me, at least, it was a sad return to predictability. All of the "conversation scenes" with the north-of-the-wall Ranger Crew felt like amateurish fan fiction to me. Oooh, if Jon Stark met Jorah Mormont what would they say to each other? Oooh, if The Hound met Tormund Giantsbane what would they say to each other? Oooooh, if Beric Dondarrion met ..... etc. I could have written all that dialogue myself, five years ago. With nothing clever or surprising, it's just fanservice.

    Even the big battle at the end was, while fucking awesome, not super surprising. I'll give myself some credit for recognizing the army of the dead contained none of the Big Hitters (e.g. Zombie Wun Wun) and was curiously content to encircle Jon and Crew, therefore there's a pretty high probability it's a trap, Jon is bait, and they're targeting Dany's dragons, in which case we'll soon have one or more Zombie Dragons to contend with -- yes, I am a genius, I realized all of that. Bow to me.

    Arya is surprising me a bit, though. So there's that. They're taking the Winterfell Situation in directions I did not anticipate. What's the money on Arya killing Sansa in the season 7 finale?

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    So, a few thoughts about last night:

    Things I saw coming:
    Finally revealing who Jon is and that he's the legitimate heir.
    The Night King riding the dragon and taking down the wall.
    Jon and Dany finally getting busy.
    Cersei being an all around bitch.


    Things I didn't see coming:
    Littlefinger getting his comeuppance. Shit that was sweet!
    Jamie finally noping the fuck out of Cersei's bullshit. I thought he'd never pull his head from his ass.


    Not a bad episode and it didn't suffer so much from the "We're everywhere all at once in no time flat!" bullshit.

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    Now, thinking about it a bit more, I feel like Littlefinger got kind of screwed. I don't think the show people knew what to do with him. This whole season, he's been largely wasted. That's a storyline I hope gets a better resolution in the books.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drewbie View Post
    Things I didn't see coming:
    Littlefinger getting his comeuppance. Shit that was sweet!
    Yeah, I literally said "he's winning the whole show" like 60 seconds before this.

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    Jamie finally noping the fuck out of Cersei's bullshit. I thought he'd never pull his head from his ass.
    Thank Christ. I hope this means he goes back to being cool.

    Quote Originally Posted by Drewbie View Post
    Not a bad episode and it didn't suffer so much from the "We're everywhere all at once in no time flat!" bullshit.
    Such an annoying problem this season. And it still happened in the finale. Sam magically appearing at Winterfell without (apparently) traveling at all since his last appearance in Oldtown, at the southern end of the continent. He probably took a ship, ships apparently travel at light speed on HBO, unless Dany wants 8 inches of Snow.

    Quote Originally Posted by Drewbie View Post
    Now, thinking about it a bit more, I feel like Littlefinger got kind of screwed. I don't think the show people knew what to do with him. This whole season, he's been largely wasted. That's a storyline I hope gets a better resolution in the books.
    Yeah, he needed a better finale. I would have liked it more if there were evidence that Sansa and Arya were onto him but they didn't give anything away, so it just felt like an asspull. So he leaves, having accomplished nothing.

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