Electric Cars and Hybrids

[Macheath]

One thing though, it's not really fair to compare a CR-V to a Leaf. You should be comparing a similar sized gas vehicle and/or hybrid to the Leaf. I'm not sure what those would be, maybe Civic, Camry, Prius, WRX, Focus(?), etc.

Except we're not trying to award a scientifically-derived efficiency award to one car in each class, we're figuring out which car will cost Nynny the least out of all those he'd be willing to purchase and drive. Once he comes up with a list of cars he can fit all his damn child-apparatus into, and also sit in comfortably himself, and also [fill in the blank], then you figure out how those cars compare to one another whether there's a Hummer on the list or not. The already-owned CR-V certainly belongs on such a list.

[nynnja]

I found the thing I need! Unfortunately the guy wants to sell it for $18.

But I figure in short order I can probably develop a reasonable facsimile.

[nynnja]

Ok, this topic came up again. Out of the blue my mom offered to buy my CR-V if I was interested in selling. I wasn't, but now I am.

There are several Leafs in my area or close enough so I'm back to pondering the all electric.

My daily commute is 22 miles, and running errands could add 20-30 to that so theoretically I would be well within the 80-100 mile range on any given day. The charger would likely fill it every night, and I bet if I asked nice I could work out something with my employer to charge it at work.

The CR-V is worth $10K-11K private party sale, and 2012-2013 Leafs go for $10K-$13K, which is pretty well a wash on cost, and cuts my fuel cost by over $1,000 per year.

[nynnja]

Here's EPA data to confirm annual fuel savings of +/- $1,000.

I don't drive 15,000 miles a year so my savings will be lower than this estimate.

[nynnja]

Apparently the 2013 model works better because it's
annual savings is $4,750
annual fuel cost $500
Cost to drive 25 miles $0.87

[Macheath]

The charger would likely fill it every night, and I bet if I asked nice I could work out something with my employer to charge it at work.

Confirm that. Wisconsin's not exactly at the bleeding edge of charging stations, and cold weather is bad for battery performance in the first place. I would guess that having two points you know you can use to charge up on a daily basis might be a big deal. I'm sure lots of people make do with charging nightly at home, but that doesn't necessarily leave much room for error.

[nynnja]

Yessir, it's worth looking into. Although if I drove to and from work twice it's only 44 miles so I should be able to do that with partial battery in winter. This guy in Madison bought a Leaf and wrote a blog all about it. I'm reading his experience now.

Google says charging is ...
21h at 110V
4h at 220V
0.5h at 440V

[nynnja]

Still moving toward the LEAF decision. The wife seems to be agreeable to the point we're taking a test drive on Friday.

[gnod]

Did you buy that Leaf Nynnja?

[nynnja]

Still moving toward the LEAF decision. The wife seems to be agreeable to the point we're taking a test drive on Friday.

The wife dug it, totally thinks we should buy one ... some day. In the meantime she's much more excited about not making car payments. We would have needed a small loan to do it right now so we decided to wait. It's all good, the cars are getting way better so I'm eyeing a used Bolt in a couple years. I will have an electric car.