Graffiti

[brien]

Originally Posted by Liuv

That's cool. I think it would be a lot easier to read if you colored it.

Also, I'm really impressed by people who can create good graffiti. Mostly because I can't make my brain work in the necessary way to make letters that way. I recall seeing a graffiti site once where the artist had managed to make one "tag"(?) say something like four different things. If you looked at it one way you saw his name, another way you saw one word, a third way was a third word, etc. Doesn't it seem a shame that someone with that much artistic ability and vision only chooses to release it with a spray paint can? I don't really care about the whole "illegal" thing, just the wasted potential thing. And the fact that I can't do it.

I really love good graffiti, i'll start off this thread by pointing out a really awesome artist, fi5e
http://ni9e.com/

he does lots of different urban art and cool software. one of them is a cool graffiti taxonomy
http://ni9e.com/graf_taxonomy.php

he's also part of the Graffiti Research Lab:
http://graffitiresearchlab.com/

man, i love checking out his site and new projects. he does some really awesome shit. be sure to look around at his projects using the dropdown menu

[brien]

damn, i love this kinda shit:
http://graffitiresearchlab.com/?page_id=32#video

[Macheath]

Originally Posted by brien

I really love good graffiti, i'll start off this thread by pointing out a really awesome artist, fi5e
http://ni9e.com/

First thing I clicked on was this. That tab is closed now.

[brien]

Originally Posted by Macheath

First thing I clicked on was this. That tab is closed now.

yeah, that particular page is terrible (on purpose, of course). every year around x-mas he uploads a whole cd worth of his favorite songs of that year.

[Macheath]

Originally Posted by brien

damn, i love this kinda shit:
http://graffitiresearchlab.com/?page_id=32#video

That was neat. I kind of doubt it was "interacting with the surfaces upon which it was projected" though.

[digiphreak]

The clouds going by in the background were cool too.

[Macheath]

Originally Posted by digiphreak

The clouds going by in the background were cool too.

Heh, didn't even notice that.

[brien]

i've always loved this video:
http://ni9e.com/graf_analysis_beta.php

[brien]

found out about this site on the 9 today:

http://www.ekosystem.org/

[Helly]

http://www.banksy.co.uk/

Banksy is by far my favorite graffiti artist. Hell, I own all four of his books. He's also the person I stole the quote in my Sig from.

Some of my favorite tags he's done are on the Israeli/Palestine wall.

[Veneficus]

Originally Posted by Helly

http://www.banksy.co.uk/

Banksy is by far my favorite graffiti artist. Hell, I own all four of his books. He's also the person I stole the quote in my Sig from.

Some of my favorite tags he's done are on the Israeli/Palestine wall.

I don't know why but this one in particular really stuck to me.

http://www.banksy.co.uk/indoors/01_2.html

[Helly]

I don't know if Liuv reads this but Banksy has a good response to:
"Doesn't it seem a shame that someone with that much artistic ability and vision only chooses to release it with a spray paint can? I don't really care about the whole "illegal" thing, just the wasted potential thing."

"I'm going to speak my mind, so this won't take very long.
Graffiti is not the lowest form of art. Despite having to creep about at night and lie to your mum it's actually the most honest artform available. There is no elitism or hype, it exhibits on some of the best walls a town has to offer, and nobody is put off by the price of admission.
A wall has always been the best place to publish your work.
The people who run our cities don't understand graffiti because they think nothing has the right to exist unless it makes a profit. But if you just value money then your opinion is worthless.
They say graffiti frightens people and is symbolic of the decline in society, but graffiti is only dangerous in the minds of three kinds of people; politicians, advertising executives and graffiti writers.
The people who truly deface our neighbourhoods are the companies that scrawl their giant slogans across buildings and buses trying to make us feel inadequate unless we buy their stuff. They expect to be able to shout their message in your face from every available surface but you're never allowed to answer back. Well, they started this fight and the wall is the weapon of choice to hit them back.
Some people become cops because they want to make the world a better place. Some people become vandals because they want to make the world a better looking place."

Thats out of his book "Wall and Piece".

[Macheath]

Originally Posted by Helly

"The people who run our cities don't understand graffiti because they think nothing has the right to exist unless it makes a profit."

Yes, Banksy, I'm sure that's the only reason people hate graffiti.

[Helly]

That one and the ones where he painted on the sheep are some of the things he's done that I don't like. Luckily there aren't many.

[Randomgrill eats dookie.]

Yeah, his response is bull shit. People don't like graffiti because it involves someone painting shit you don't want, without asking you, on your wall, for their own amusement.

Painting murals and shit on walls is never looked down upon by people who run cities when it's done legally. As a matter of fact one badass wall painting here in philly is a huge american flag on the side of a wall. it's painted to appear like it's hanging from the top of the building and therefore has the natural folds/shadows/etc. It's awesome.

[Liuv]

"I'm going to speak my mind, so this won't take very long.
Graffiti is not the lowest form of art. Despite having to creep about at night and lie to your mum it's actually the most honest artform available. There is no elitism or hype, it exhibits on some of the best walls a town has to offer, and nobody is put off by the price of admission.
A wall has always been the best place to publish your work.
The people who run our cities don't understand graffiti because they think nothing has the right to exist unless it makes a profit. But if you just value money then your opinion is worthless.
They say graffiti frightens people and is symbolic of the decline in society, but graffiti is only dangerous in the minds of three kinds of people; politicians, advertising executives and graffiti writers.
The people who truly deface our neighbourhoods are the companies that scrawl their giant slogans across buildings and buses trying to make us feel inadequate unless we buy their stuff. They expect to be able to shout their message in your face from every available surface but you're never allowed to answer back. Well, they started this fight and the wall is the weapon of choice to hit them back.
Some people become cops because they want to make the world a better place. Some people become vandals because they want to make the world a better looking place."

He feels inadequate when he looks at a billboard so he decides to justify his existence by painting two cops making out?

A lot of his work is really impressive, but trying to justify it as some sort of war with commerce is the dumbest pile of worthlessness I've ever heard. I tried to read his "manifesto," but couldn't make it past the first few lines before I started laughing and went on with my life. Some crap about how his idea of the perfect city would be one where graffiti was everywhere or some shit. Can you imagine what that would look like?

In conclusion, Banksy is a talented moron.

[lucy]

Originally Posted by Randomgrill

Yeah, his response is bull shit. People don't like graffiti because it involves someone painting shit you don't want, without asking you, on your wall, for their own amusement.

My thoughts exactly. I looked at his work and he is indeed talented and I enjoyed it, but what was done to the statue Mac showed,although thought provoking and artistic, isn't. It seems to me Bransky is then interfering with my enjoyment of art by forcing his view on me. art that is forced may be talented and thought producing, but can never be appriciated fully becuase its viewing was forced. the human psyche never seems to get passed the "forced part" and then I think the artist's point is undervalued. my question is this: does graffitti stop being graffitti if produced on walls with consent of the owner? I would think it by definition would then be just art. or is it the process of using spray paint the entire definition?